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		<title>Hickenlooper on “dramatic” climate change; billions for what?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;We know that climate change is occurring, right? Everyone knows that. We know it&#8217;s dramatic. We know that mankind is the likely&#8230;the vast majority of it is a result of our actions. So we need to address it and move quickly. I think when you start trying to break down which part of the climate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<object width="367" height="300"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/e/7uiOmIZmqnI"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/e/7uiOmIZmqnI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="367" height="300" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object><p>&#8220;We know that climate change is occurring, right? Everyone knows that. We know it&#8217;s dramatic. We know that mankind is the likely&#8230;the vast majority of it is a result of our actions. So we need to address it and move quickly. I think when you start trying to break down which part of the climate disruption is the consequence of which pollution images, or who&#8217;s responsible, that&#8217;s when we get into trouble. I would certainly dramatically agree that we need billions of dollars&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So said Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper in December, appearing on the show Democracy Now! during the UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen [at 7:40 of the video above. <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/8/as_epa_rules_greenhouse_gases_endanger">Full transcript at this link</a>.]</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Hickenlooper was cut off mid-sentence by host Amy Goodman, who wanted to hear from Damon Moglen, the global warming campaign director for Greenpeace USA, about its &#8220;demands&#8221; at the conference. [Moglen had said earlier (4:46) that, "The expectation is that the U.S. will put somewhere in between half a billion and maybe a couple of billion dollars. This is pennies on the dollar of what’s needed, absolutely pennies on the dollar of what’s really needed."]</p>
<p>So Hickenlooper, now running for governor of Colorado, gets another chance. And we trust that he will answer these questions completely on the campaign trail: WHERE do we need billions of dollars? WHO should pay? And WHAT role should Colorado play?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all ears.</p>
<p>[Updated 2/13/10]<br />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper REALLY THINKS about climate change &#8211; and more importantly, what public policies and tax schemes he might favor &#8211; is something that deserves MUCH MORE SCRUTINY beyond his recent tap dance at a mining conference in Denver. Let&#8217;s start here&#8230; In December, a month before Hickenlooper entered the Colorado governor&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper REALLY THINKS about climate change &#8211; and more importantly, what public policies and tax schemes he might favor &#8211; is something that deserves MUCH MORE SCRUTINY beyond <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14387411">his recent tap dance</a> at a mining conference in Denver. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start here&#8230;</p>
<p>In December, a month before Hickenlooper entered the Colorado governor&#8217;s race, he attended the <a href="http://www.denmark.dk/en/menu/Climate-Energy/COP15-Copenhagen-2009/cop15.htm">UN Climate Change Conference</a> in Copenhagen. Stateside, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency made a splash with an &#8220;<a href="http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/endangerment.html">endangerment finding</a>&#8221; that carbon dioxide, methane and four other greenhouse gases &#8220;threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703558004574582284174773944.html">The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s opinion</a>: &#8220;With cap and trade blown apart in the Senate, the White House has chosen to impose taxes and regulation across the entire economy under clean-air laws that were written decades ago and were never meant to apply to carbon.&#8221; </p>
<p>In Copenhagen, Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman asked Hickenlooper what he thought about the EPA&#8217;s action. [<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/8/as_epa_rules_greenhouse_gases_endanger">Full transcript at this link</a>.]</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the EPA stepping in &#8211; clearly CO2 and methane, these six gases, are pollutants, there can&#8217;t be any question,&#8221; he said. &#8220;So there shouldn&#8217;t be a lot of discussion about whether the EPA has the jurisdiction or the authority. I think the devil will be in the details.”</p>
<p>So far, so bad. Hickenlooper went on to discuss whether Pres. Obama can achieve political consensus on climate change. </p>
<p>[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mMPnei6AFk]</p>
<p>[The video above is queued up to 5:40.]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68Rk94jPDk" rel="shadowbox[post-207];player=swf;width=640;height=385;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68Rk94jPDk</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It reminds me a little bit of slavery, of Lincoln having to deal&#8230;If you look at how moderate Lincoln was in 1856, 1858, 1859, even as he was getting elected [president], it&#8217;s an intergenerational problem that has been, you know, intensely polarizing. I think what Obama is trying to do is thread the needle and bring the country together around this issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Say WHAT?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Maher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper in this video (from the climate change conference in Copenhagen, of course!!!) tout the wonders of FasTracks and describe transit as &#8220;the new black. It&#8217;s hip.&#8221; Look here Hickenscooter . . . I am not going to take advice from you as to what&#8217;s fashionable. You are a lot of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaFnyRx3pIc" rel="shadowbox[post-241];player=swf;width=640;height=385;">in this video</a> (from the climate change conference in Copenhagen, of course!!!) tout the wonders of FasTracks and describe transit as &#8220;the new black. It&#8217;s hip.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look here <a href="http://www.whosaidyousaid.com/2009/12/hickenscooter.html">Hickenscooter</a> . . . I am not going to take advice from you as to what&#8217;s fashionable. You are a lot of things, but &#8220;hip&#8221; is not one of them.</p>
<p>The  proposed 119-mile rail line project in metro Denver (which the mayor helped sell to voters in 2004) looks more like the NEW RED, as in TAXPAYER BAILOUT that may <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14130199">require $2.5 billion more</a> to complete.</p>
<p>Stay until the end of the video to get an added bonus: Hickenlooper on the urgency of climate change. </p>
<p>(How&#8217;s this message for Hickenlooper as he runs for governor of Colorado: <span style="font-weight:bold;">Vote for me. I&#8217;ll increase your taxes for mass transit. And fight climate change!</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s always a group on the periphery of any issue, especially an issue that&#8217;s got serious amounts of money tied to the solution, that are going to wave their arms and say, &#8216;It&#8217;s a hoax. It&#8217;s phony.&#8217; But the vast majority of people in Denver recognize that climate change is a real problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s going to be something that&#8217;s going to get worse and worse until we face up and address it. And I think that recognition grows a little bit every week, every month. There&#8217;s more people that say, &#8216;You know. This is a big deal. This is a big deal.&#8217; All the naysayers and skeptics, they get some attention, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re persuading people, in their heart of hearts; they know, all right, we&#8217;ve been listening to them for a while. It&#8217;s about time we started getting to work on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaFnyRx3pIc]</p>
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