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Stokols: "Businesses that do online sales in Colorado are just going to leave."

Democratic lawmakers in Colorado defending their pursuit of sales taxes from online purchases are setting up the state as a bad place to do business (witness severing its Colorado affiliates) and a hassle for consumers.

Listen to some of the fallout described by two journalists on Independent Thinking, hosted by Jon Caldara, president of the Independence Institute.

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ED SEALOVER of the Denver Business Journal: In addition to having Amazon send people this little note saying you've got to pay the state, they're also asking Amazon to send notes to the state, saying, 'Oh, by the way, so-and-so bought this much worth of product from us; they owe you this much.' So, when you get the note from Amazon, there's a note going to the state saying, 'John Smith owes this much.' And you could be, if you're not paying, the state could come after you.

CALDARA: So this will be a nice little tattletale system. So since they're not going to enforce it, they can't get Amazon to collect it, Amazon will have to tattletale on what I buy. And guess what, I'm not paying the sales tax. Nobody's going to be paying the sales tax.

ELI STOKOLS of Fox 31: Well, it's tough. And that's what, you know, businesses that do online sales in Colorado are just going to leave. We've done stories on that at Fox 31 where you have entire businesses - 20, 30 employees - and they say, 'These jobs are gone because we're not going to do this business in this state.'

You have farmers out there on the Eastern Plains of the state that have these big...I mean, we're not talking small quantities, they're buying a lot of agricultural products. So the tax on them is big. You can understand the outrage from these specific businesses, companies, these industries that are sort of being picked out.

Because there's 100 of these exemptions and credits on the books and only 13 of them were proposed, I think, by the governor's office and the JBC (Joint Budget Committee) to be, these loopholes, to be closed. So you can understand why those folks feel like this is a little bit arbitrary. Even though we've heard from the governor over and over again: 'This isn't arbitrary. This is a balanced approach and we're not killing business.'

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Hickenlooper: Bennet "can't be that moderate and still have a happy life."

Another gem from Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper's remarks at the Colorado Environmental Coalition's "Rebel with a Cause" gala in May 2009, this one regarding his former chief of staff (and fellow Wesleyan University alum), U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado.

Hickenlooper was describing [at 4:06 of the video above] how activists could and should push "moderates," a category in which Hickenlooper placed himself.

"And that's what you are, in many ways, you have to push us moderates further to the extreme. And I realize when you spank me or you spank [U.S. Interior Secretary] Ken Salazar that’s really what your doing. But don’t hit so hard sometimes.

"And recognize, recognize that we do have a remarkable new senator, Michael Bennet. Right? Who’s gonna be a moderate, right? But don’t forget that his wife (Susan Daggett) was an environmental lawyer for many many years. She used to run Earthjustice and has done remarkable work under the radar for many people. But he can’t be that moderate and still have a happy life. So, whatever you might be [disconcerted] about, you know, let him, give him kind of a couple, a little slack for a little bit of time, knowing that he will always come back to the right decision."

I'm all for the men recognizing we're the ones who are in charge, but this is taking it a little far.


Hickenlooper: "Insane not to be spending tens and tens of billions a year" to stop climate change. "But I'm a moderate."

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Hickenlooper: "Insane not to be spending tens and tens of billions a year" to stop climate change. "But I'm a moderate."

When Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper spoke at the Colorado Environmental Coalition's "Rebel with a Cause" gala in May 2009, he showed he was down with the green crowd.

"What’s weird about me being up here is, you know I have a masters in geology, I took climate studies," said Hickenlooper [at 3:00 of the video above]. "I’m one of those people that says I’m not sure how fast the climate..I’m not saying that the sky is falling. I’m saying that clearly the climate is changing, clearly mankind’s activities are causing it. And that we’d be insane not to be spending tens...tens and tens of billions of dollars every year buying insurance to begin to prevent and stop that change that’s happening. But I'm a moderate."

If this is Hickenlooper's definition of moderate, we'd love to know what (and who) he thinks is radical.

Apparently not Van Jones, whom he praised [at 10:55 of the same video] as "a rock star. He is. Everything you've ever heard about Van Jones, he's bigger and better in life than what you’ve heard."

Jones, given the CEC's "Rebel with a Cause" award, wasn't able to attend the event in person.

In September, Jones resigned his Obama Administration post as green jobs czar "amid controversy over past activism."

"Mr. Jones was poised to play a prominent role in disbursing tens of billions of dollars of stimulus money," wrote The Wall Street Journal. "It was the ideal perch from which he could keep funding the left-wing networks from which he sprang, this time with taxpayer money."

Gosh, I love speeches - don't you?


Update: WhoSaidYouSaid is mentioned on the 630 KHOW talk show Caplis and Silverman here:

More links to Hickenlooper's remarks on climate change, prior to running for governor of Colorado:

Hickenlooper on "dramatic" climate change; billions for what?

Hickenlooper on climate politics: the slavery analogy

Hickenlooper: "Transit is the new black. It's hip."

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Can you Reid the writing on the wall?

Oh Senator Reid! Don't go on record and say that no one was talking about using reconciliation as a way to pass health care reform. Appointed U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet and U.S. Rep. Jared Polis represent just the Colorado contingent talking about it.

BTW, Reid is reportedly proposing filibuster reform in the NEXT congress.

You know you're in trouble when your political demise is being predicted on Saturday Night Live.

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SHOCK! Amazon is a business; stunned Dem lawmaker FREAKS OUT!

Check out unhinged Colorado Senate Majority Leader John Morse, getting revved up over Amazon's decision to drop its Colorado affiliates after Morse and his cohorts jammed through an Internet sales-tax collection plan.

"I spent many years as a police officer and I have not seen such tyranny, such egregiousness, such retaliation, especially from a corporate customer that makes in excess of $900 million a year," fumed Morse.

It's infuriating, isn't it, when profit-making businesses act rationally to protect their interests? If only they would bow to the whims of state legislators and do as they're told. Ha!

When last we checked in with Morse, he was happily downing Mountain Dew, not so worried about the 2.9 percent soda-and-candy tax he and his colleagues had imposed.

This time, however, it's personal, with Morse pledging to turn off his prized Amazon Kindle and buy an Apple iPad. LOL! I bet they don't miss him.

What WILL be missed? The revenue generated for these partner companies. This means jobs in Colorado. Did anyone notice that John didn't mention WHY Amazon decided to do this? Perhaps because of the COST to them to fulfill this requirement? This is a business decision, plain and simple. If there's tyranny (ok - it's more like rank incompetence) it's in the Dem controlled state legislature. Watch carefully to see what other major players decide to do in light of Amazon's leadership. Now back to ordering online...

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Are green jobs worth the price?

Hmmmm. Let me think about it. Nope, no they're not.

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Speaker Pelosi on the money

We find ourselves in a rare moment of agreement with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was in Colorado recently touting a highway-widening project tied to the one-year anniversary of the $862 billion federal stimulus act.

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"Well, you know, for all of the projects in the country of merit, and this certainly is tops among them, there's just not enough, never going to be enough money..." said Pelosi.


She went on to describe how to fund them nonetheless. And while government infrastructure spending during a down economy may SOUND good, the Heritage Foundation warned of the traps with that and the overall stimulus sales pitch.

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